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Section V. Culture

                               Lunch with... gentlemantly U.S. diplomat John Herbst
                                  American  Ambassador  John  E.  Herbst  doesn't  have  any
                            spare time, and Nov. 11 was no exception. He arrived promptly for
                            lunch  at  French-themed  Le  Grand  Cafe  on  Muzeyny,  his  press
                            secretary soon to follow. He  never suggested that the waiters  in
                            white  shirts  hurry  and  he  didn't  rush  the  interview,  but,  as  he
                            had been on every other day since his arrival in Kyiv on Sept. 13,
                            Herbst was running on a full schedule.
                                   "I don't have a whole lot of personal time," he  said in an
                            even unflinching tone. "This  is a  very  intense  job, and generally
                            speaking career diplomats who  become ambassadors are used to
                            working pretty intensely."
                                  After his lunch at Le Grand Cafe, he was to set off for his
                            next  two  appointments  -  a  meeting  with  Ukrainian  President
                            Leonid "Kuchma, followed by a dinner, at his own ambassadorial
                            residence, to mark the end of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
                                  Aside  from  being  an  ambassador,  Herbst  is  also  a  family
                            man  who  has  arrived  at  previous  diplomatic  postings  with  five
                            children in tow. Now his two oldest daughters study and work in
                            the United States and his three youngest children are here with him
                            in  Kyiv. He said that the transitions were easier for some of  his
                            children than others, but that he spends as  much time as  he can
                            with them.
                                  "I have a large family, and you can't ignore your family. Bad
                            things happen when you do. So the time I'm not working, I spend
                            with my family, especially the kids. I spend a lot of time with my
                            wife as well,  but she's going to turn out okay, she already  has,"
                            Herbst said.
                                  Herbst sat straight-backed on one of the red plush chairs in
                            Le Grand Cafe's bar room. He's a tall, thin man with a long narrow
                            face  and  dark  features  -  inherited  from  the  Italian  side  of  his
                            family. He looked both deserved and dignified in a dark suit and




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